i went into the white house in 1985, john. reagan had won 49 states and they beat him again and again on contra aid. he fought for it. he finally got that through. we had to fight to get the missile through. >> what's the point? >> the point is when the democrats took over the senate, they not only borked ronald bork, they almost got ronald reagan, attempted to impeach him. we had democrats we could work with. >> i'm saying that all things considered, he had remarkable success in dealing with democrats. >> no, he didn't. >> yes, he d. you saw the record. -- he did. you sawed record. >> he had success bringing the blue dogs whose congressional districts he carried. they came with him. the rest of the democrats fought him every single year-- >> he got the legislation passed. he got the deals cut. eleanor? >> john is right. it doesn't matter how you put the coalition together. if you win in the end, you've won. reagan and tip o'neal both understood the value of marketing this relationship they had. they probably had a cigar toget